- welcome guests Kim and Catie on episode 179 of the show
- we recorded this one on a sidewalk of a street in Los Angeles
- first recording on a public sidewalk with people walking by
- discussed relationships gone awry
- also discussed parenting that wasn’t as desired
- some elements of OCD were talked about
- as often, we mentioned some books of interest in the fiction space
- there were some life message in this one, and some tips for relationships
- glad to have both Kim and Catie on the show
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