- welcome Ren Barlow from Australia to episode 189 of the show
- this one was recorded on my phone outside a restaurant in Beverly Hills, so the quality is a bit more phone quality with some background sounds from people
- the associated video for this episode will be at this link
- she has done work for Melbourne Opera, and done various singing gigs
- one of her large pushes is for improvement in literacy for children, with literacy being the way for them to grow from their environment
- she also illustrates children’s books
- we talked about the importance of protecting your energy and being kind
- a bit as well about books and a book recommendation
- glad to have had her~
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