{"id":76,"date":"2016-03-10T14:04:11","date_gmt":"2016-03-10T22:04:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/?p=76"},"modified":"2018-01-13T16:10:01","modified_gmt":"2018-01-14T00:10:01","slug":"an-interview-with-eliezer-sternberg","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/an-interview-with-eliezer-sternberg\/","title":{"rendered":"An Interview With Dr. Eliezer Sternberg"},"content":{"rendered":"<p id=\"64dc\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--h3\"><a href=\" http:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/an-interview-with-eliezer-sternberg\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"112\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/an-interview-with-eliezer-sternberg\/attachment\/25387312\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/25387312.jpg?fit=313%2C475&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"313,475\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"NeuroLogic\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/25387312.jpg?fit=198%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/25387312.jpg?fit=313%2C475&amp;ssl=1\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" class=\"alignright wp-image-112 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/25387312.jpg?resize=198%2C300\" alt=\"\" width=\"198\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/25387312.jpg?resize=198%2C300&amp;ssl=1 198w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/25387312.jpg?w=313&amp;ssl=1 313w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 198px) 85vw, 198px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a>Eliezer Sternberg, M.D., is a resident neurologist at Yale\u2013New Haven Hospital. With a background in neuroscience and philosophy, he studies how brain research can shed light on the mysteries of consciousness and decision making. He is the author of multiple books, including\u00a0<em class=\"markup--em markup--p-em\">Are You a Machine?<\/em>\u00a0and\u00a0<em class=\"markup--em markup--p-em\">My Brain Made Me Do It,\u00a0<\/em>and for the purposes of this interview,\u00a0<em class=\"markup--em markup--p-em\">NeuroLogic<\/em>, which is about brain activation and what propels us to do things.<\/p>\n<p id=\"11a8\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">The following is my interview with Dr. Sternberg about\u00a0<em class=\"markup--em markup--p-em\">Neurologic:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p id=\"e0a7\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">\u2014<\/p>\n<p id=\"7580\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\"><strong class=\"markup--strong markup--p-strong\">Armen:<\/strong>\u00a0There was much mentioned in your book about the relevance and impact of mirroring as it relates to empathy, and how autistic or emotionally damaged individuals would lack this ability or desire to mirror as strongly. With it either being a default response mechanism or genetic disorder, is there value to either disadvantaged group practicing mirroring methods on a regular basis? Related to this, what parts of the brain are \u201coff-limits\u201d to present-day alteration\/correction, if any?<\/p>\n<p id=\"5f48\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\"><strong class=\"markup--strong markup--p-strong\">Dr. Eliezer Sternberg:<\/strong>\u00a0I should start by saying that mirror neurons are a source of controversy, and the so called \u201cbroken mirror theory\u201d of autism is especially controversial. That being said, I certainly believe in the power of practice. Neurons can grow and adapt and the power of brain plasticity frequently surprises us. No part of the brain is off-limits, in that sense, but rehearsing a behavior may not be enough to overcome defiicits caused by significant brain damage or certain inherited conditions.<\/p>\n<p id=\"dc2b\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\"><strong class=\"markup--strong markup--p-strong\">Armen:\u00a0<\/strong>In the same way that you discuss many examples of where the brain fills in gaps of understanding in your patients, or in your research, CMU Professor John H. Miller of my previous interview(and in his book) alluded to the possibility that neurons connect in a decentralized fashion, adapting to the connections available. Do you view the building blocks of brains like members of a group showing up to a meeting and doing what they can with whoever is there at the time?<\/p>\n<p id=\"d1e4\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\"><strong class=\"markup--strong markup--p-strong\">Dr. Eliezer Sternberg:<\/strong>\u00a0I do. Neurons are cogs in the enormously complex machine that is the brain. They will process whatever information they receive. When, as often happens in life, they receive incomplete information, they will make the best of it, filling the gaps when necessary. The same goes when individual neurons are missing, as in brain damage. The remaining cells adapt, grow, and change to fill the void.<\/p>\n<p id=\"2e7a\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\"><strong class=\"markup--strong markup--p-strong\">Armen:<\/strong>\u00a0As they came up in the book, your descriptions of the disorders made them look like clear logical breakdowns in the mind, rather than involving people who would be described with some negative\/condescending terms. In relation to this way of seeing all as able to be explained, how close does your somatic marker system feel that we are to viewing the brain as an opened black box?<\/p>\n<p id=\"7bbe\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\"><strong class=\"markup--strong markup--p-strong\">Dr. Eliezer Sternberg:<\/strong>\u00a0I specifically chose to discuss certain disorders that have been subjected to extensive research and have insightful theories and discoveries surrounding them. With that level of scrutiny, we can often find a logical basis behind the symptoms, as if the patient\u2019s behavior is a form of thoughtful compensation for an underlying brain defect. However, the black box is not completely open. There is so much left to learn, so many conditions we haven\u2019t even begun to understand. We have work to do.<\/p>\n<p id=\"27fa\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\"><strong class=\"markup--strong markup--p-strong\">Armen:<\/strong>\u00a0Connected to how you described them, I see dreams as having one purpose of mitigating the day\u2019s worries\/fears\/risks in a safe context where everything flows seemingly smoothly, due to a dormant PFC. If dream time is such a safe environment, would those who are most in control and self-assured during the day have the least cognitive dissonance between their sleeping and waking hours, or is this a non-issue due to lack of cognition during sleep?<\/p>\n<p id=\"966a\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\"><strong class=\"markup--strong markup--p-strong\">Dr. Eliezer Sternberg:<\/strong>\u00a0Nobody has discovered a discrete pattern to explain our dreams, but it is certainly true that our daily thoughts, fears, and desires influence the content of dreams. So, there may be a correlation between between having mild or controlled emotions during the day and having relatively uneventful dreams. Then again, a person who is that way because he suppresses his emotions during the day might find his dreams delving into them at night. There\u2019s really no way to know, and there is certainly a component of randomness that is the wild card in dreaming.<\/p>\n<p id=\"b651\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\"><strong class=\"markup--strong markup--p-strong\">Armen:\u00a0<\/strong>Would you say that what we call life is an illusion, albeit a persistent one that seems to be coherent and believable?<\/p>\n<p id=\"02e9\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\"><strong class=\"markup--strong markup--p-strong\">Dr. Eliezer Sternberg:<\/strong>\u00a0Not at all. Life is a real, multifaceted conscious experience. It\u2019s true that we each have different perspectives, we sense the world through complex neurobiological means, and it\u2019s even true that our brains might trick us from time to time\u200a\u2014\u200abut that takes nothing away from the reality or beauty of life. It\u2019s just part of being human.<\/p>\n<p id=\"151f\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">\u2014<\/p>\n<p id=\"edc7\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">Appreciations to Dr. Sternberg for taking part.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Eliezer Sternberg, M.D., is a resident neurologist at Yale\u2013New Haven Hospital. With a background in neuroscience and philosophy, he studies how brain research can shed light on the mysteries of consciousness and decision making. He is the author of multiple books, including\u00a0Are You a Machine?\u00a0and\u00a0My Brain Made Me Do It,\u00a0and for the purposes of this &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/an-interview-with-eliezer-sternberg\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;An Interview With Dr. Eliezer Sternberg&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p9go8C-1e","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/76"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=76"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/76\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":162,"href":"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/76\/revisions\/162"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=76"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=76"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=76"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}