{"id":2914,"date":"2023-09-28T18:57:55","date_gmt":"2023-09-29T01:57:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/podcast\/?p=2914"},"modified":"2025-11-15T18:20:33","modified_gmt":"2025-11-16T02:20:33","slug":"413-coco-krumme-the-takeover-of-optimization-and-new-approaches-to-try-in-optimal-illusions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/podcast\/413-coco-krumme-the-takeover-of-optimization-and-new-approaches-to-try-in-optimal-illusions\/","title":{"rendered":"413: Coco Krumme | The Takeover Of Optimization, And New Approaches To Try, In &#8220;Optimal Illusions&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Coco-Krumme.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2915\" style=\"width:254px;height:318px\" width=\"254\" height=\"318\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Coco-Krumme.jpeg 360w, https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Coco-Krumme-240x300.jpeg 240w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 254px) 100vw, 254px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Optimization is the driving principle of our modern world. We now can manufacture, transport, and organize things more cheaply and faster than ever. Optimized models underlie everything from airline schedules to dating site matches. We strive for efficiency in our daily lives, obsessed with productivity and optimal performance. How did a mathematical concept take on such outsize cultural shape? And what is lost when efficiency is gained?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Optimal Illusions traces the fascinating history of optimization from its roots in America\u2019s founding principles to its modern manifestations, found in colorful stories of oil tycoons, wildlife ecologists, Silicon Valley technologists, lifestyle gurus, sugar beet farmers, and poker players. Optimization is now deeply embedded in the technologies and assumptions that have come to comprise not only our material reality but what we make of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Coco Krumme\u2019s work in mathematical modeling has made her acutely aware of optimization\u2019s overreach. Streamlined systems are less resilient and more at risk of failure. They limit our options and narrow our perspectives. The malaise of living in an optimized society can feel profoundly inhumane. Optimal Illusions exposes the sizable bargains we have made in the name of optimization and asks us to consider what comes next.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"413: Coco Krumme |  The Takeover Of Optimization, And New Approaches To Try, In &quot;Optimal Illusions&quot;\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/m_6mZhecUl8?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Coco Krumme is an\u00a0applied mathematician and writer. After completing a doctorate at MIT and working in academia and tech, Krumme founded Leeward Co, a consultancy that helps research teams with computational science and strategy (aka data science) in agriculture, climate science, logistics, materials and biosciences.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Coco-Krumme-Optimal-Illusions-679x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2916\" style=\"width:300px;height:453px\" width=\"300\" height=\"453\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Coco-Krumme-Optimal-Illusions-679x1024.jpg 679w, https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Coco-Krumme-Optimal-Illusions-199x300.jpg 199w, https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Coco-Krumme-Optimal-Illusions-768x1159.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Coco-Krumme-Optimal-Illusions.jpg 994w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/figure>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_5818\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-2914-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/thearmenshow\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/podcast\/episodes\/tas413cocokrumme.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/thearmenshow\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/podcast\/episodes\/tas413cocokrumme.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/thearmenshow\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/podcast\/episodes\/tas413cocokrumme.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/thearmenshow\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/podcast\/episodes\/tas413cocokrumme.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/podcast\/?powerpress_pinw=2914-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/thearmenshow\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/podcast\/episodes\/tas413cocokrumme.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"tas413cocokrumme.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.armenshirvanian.com\/podcast\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Optimization is the driving principle of our modern world. 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